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What Size Cleaning Wipe Does Lionel 3927 Use

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Posted by Bearding on Wednesday, January 25, 2006 1:33 PM

I am working on a footling project and need to go a couple gallons of non toxic track cleaning fluid. Does anyone know what information technology is made of, or where I can get it in a gallon or quart sizes. Or any other ideas on another not toxic fluid that can be used without infringing on a patent?

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Posted past dougdagrump on Wednesday, Jan 25, 2006 i:41 PM

We use but denatured alcohol on the social club layout, it is plastic friendly and dries very chop-chop without leaving any residue. [^]

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Posted by wrmcclellan on Wednesday, January 25, 2006 one:49 PM

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, Jan 25, 2006 ane:51 PM

Isopropyl booze works well and is relatively low toxicity. This is rubbing alcohol. Please be wary of denatured alcohol labels. Denatured merely means undrinkable. Some alcohols are past there very nature "denatured" and are extrememly toxic. You tin can denature ethanol by adding small amounts of other chemicals.

DO NOT Use METHANOL (aka wood alcohol). This tin be poisonous just from skin contact or prolonged exposure to vapor.

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Posted by dougdagrump on Wednesday, January 25, 2006 two:14 PM

Isoprpyl volition leave a residue on the tracks.

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Posted by Dr. John on Wednesday, January 25, 2006 2:fourteen PM

I'g non certain if there is a not-toxic liquid rail cleaner. Even isoprpyl booze is toxic if you were to drinkable it.

Some of the citrus-based cleaners might work, only I've never tried them. Not sure if they're not-toxic or not. Also unsure about residue.

Is there a reason you are looking for non-toxic? And are you lot speaking of breathing in fumes or a child accidently swallowing it? If fumes are your just concern, stick with an alcohol based cleaner - does the job with no balance. I agree with Chuck - avoid methanol, ether, or any product with dangerous fumes.

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, January 25, 2006 2:30 PM

You lot tin get Isopropynol in 70% and 99% strengths. The later volition not leave a residue. It will also evaporate while you are looking at information technology so don't leave it uncorked (or use it most any type of open up flame).

chuck

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http://www.centerline-products.com/cleaning.htm

Some of the stuff listed is definitely TOXIC and should be used with care.

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Posted past Anonymous on Wednesday, January 25, 2006 3:08 PM

The reason for a non toxic fluid is so it tin can be shipped hands, and to avoid any health related/liability issues. I think the alcohol may evaporate likewise fast for I have in mind. I have used the Lionel and Life-Like track cleaners with practiced results and wanted to know what those are fabricated from or a source for a similar product that I could resell.

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Posted by Dr. John on Wednesday, January 25, 2006 3:44 PM

I'm pretty certain that both the Lionel and Life-Like fluids are alcohol based.

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Posted by Bearding on Wednesday, January 25, 2006 four:38 PM

But there must exist something else in it to reduce the alcohol olfactory property. I need a chemist and a lab, but my R&D upkeep is pretty much spent on the electricity to run the calculator. [:)]

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Posted by Roger Bielen on Wednesday, January 25, 2006 5:13 PM

Houdy - I believe the manufacturers add fragrance, or masking fragrances, to their cleaners but as mentioned they are alcohol based. Be careful concerning shipment of flammable liquids in quantity, afterward a sure amount the cost could far exceed the value. After a certain amount in that location is a good deal of paperwork that goes along with the procedure.

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Posted by Dr. John on Wednesday, Jan 25, 2006 6:22 PM

I guess I need to add a sign past my track that reads, "Warning! Practice Not Lick the Rails!"

That would be a chat starter! [:D]

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Posted by Anonymous on Midweek, January 25, 2006 6:56 PM

""Warning! Do Non Lick the Runway!""

Especially when the ability is on!

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Posted by Jumijo on Thursday, January 26, 2006 v:38 AM

I utilize ninety% isopropal alchohol. You can buy it Walmart for under a buck. I'd guess 4 or five bottles would make close to a gallon, so that would fix you lot back $5.00. This stuff works incredibly well. I wipe my FasTrack down with it one time a week.

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Posted by Buckeye Riveter on Thursday, Jan 26, 2006 6:32 AM

I have a track cleaning auto by Middle Line and I use Goo Gone to clean the track then install a "dry" roller to wipe off any excess.

Outside on the Garden RR, I have used LGB Track Cleaner and Smoke and it does okay, just the Goo Gone works much improve. (Outdoor rail gets x times dirtier than inside. Bird droppings do happen.)[:D]

Houdy, instead of shipping fluids, it may be easier for yous to send a coupon for $$$$ off of a sure product. Obvioulsy, from what I read, y'all are not trying to invent a new fluid.

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Posted by FJ and Grand on Th, Jan 26, 2006 12:34 PM

This is a good question.

I think that track cleaner products should comprise ingredients on the label, simply for the reason that, if ingested, medical personnel or caregivers should know how to respond (i.e., what chestnut to use such as, milk, water, vomiting etc; obviously, I'one thousand not a medical person or consumer safety specialist.; just a idea).

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, January 26, 2006 ii:29 PM

Right! That way, even if the Emergency Room staff couldn't salve you, they could lighten your terminal moments with a few snappy stories....

(I'grand sorry, David. Some days I'm and so evil I can't stand myself.)

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Posted by FJ and Chiliad on Thursday, January 26, 2006 2:43 PM

w,

someone might think that "rail cleaner" means "cleans urinary tract" :-)

who knows, sillier lawsuits take resulted

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Posted by Bearding on Thursday, January 26, 2006 3:02 PM

Quite so, David.

I absolutely agree with the point you were making, and I shouldn't screw around with such a serious thread..

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Posted by Roger Bielen on Thursday, January 26, 2006 3:22 PM

By law all manufacturers of chemical, etc. must accept MSDS'south available upon request, for big quantity shipments its normally function of the paperwork. MSDS = manufacturer's rubber data canvas. Suprisingly many common personal care products are considered chancy materials because they are irretants or flammable.

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